Monday, October 01, 2007

AFCSM: Digest Number 2406

Messages In This Digest (6 Messages)

1.
Win again: More injuries From: Norshah @ Mann
2a.
Re: Wenger's successor From: Norshah @ Mann
2b.
Re: Wenger's successor From: Ahmad Kama Muhammad
3a.
Re: Hammers From: mahendran mahen
3b.
Re: Hammers From: vincent loo
4.1.
Out of topic : WTS LG U8500 Handphone From: Kar Heng Chew

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1.

Win again: More injuries

Posted by: "Norshah @ Mann" knowshah75@yahoo.com   knowshah75

Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:52 pm (PST)

Hi, guys.
Win again but not so entertaining... Adebayor missed very good chances to score.. at least two...
Sometime the tream looks likes struggling to handle Hammers attacking force... especially at the middle of 2nd half.
Great defending at left back, right back little bit shaking... The Hammer managed to handle Fabregas very well so he could not do much... the hope they can do like last year but they made mistake because this team is different from last year they won...

A few good saves by Almunia.
More injuries: Adebayor, Hleb (what the f**k that tacle..!!!)

Another good news:
- CheapSki drew.. Drogba red carded...
- Another good job from Djourou... but lost to Manure.
- The LiveAFool struggle to win.. they thanked to not-allowed Wigan goal.
- I lost 3kg in this fasting month so far... hahahahahahahahaha.......

Rgds,
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2a.

Re: Wenger's successor

Posted by: "Norshah @ Mann" knowshah75@yahoo.com   knowshah75

Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:53 pm (PST)

I've read about a few email (esp. from Mr Chong) suggesting JM for AW successor...

But,
I don't think so... because JM (may) had a traumatic situation with Russian Billionaire as Usmanov increase another 2% stake bought yesterday...

Anyway, my on tactical and technical.. JM has a good vision...
He can change the form in a single substitute.. or even change the position of the player on the pitch w/o substitution... he can change 1st half struggling goal seeking to 2nd half thrashing form.
That's the important thing... and that's why JM need/buy 5 star player ( Mr. Chong like this ) to do this kind of task.

Another thing... I am thinking about [ good players is not necessary to be a good manager ].

Who was Alex Ferguson? or even Arsene Wenger the Great?
Comparing Ruud Gullit and Rijkard? Who is better as Player, but who is better as a Manager?
How about Guus Hiddink and van Basten? Different level as Player but who better as manager?
Roy Keane??? Do not include his name... he's new in Manager Position... do not know how far he'll go..

Not many of the great players be a great managers.... mostly the great/good manager came from only a good player.. not a LEGEND in the club/country...

----- Original Message ----
From: Yippy <kcheong@uk.ey.com>
To: arsenal-my@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 6:07:35 PM
Subject: AFCSM: Wenger's successor

Gooners

I am sure being the visionary he is, Wenger would have probably made
one or two glances elsewhere to be his successor. But I can bet,
Moaner would never be considered if Wenger and the current board
have their way. Mainly because they would want to retain the way
Arsenal plays football and the fact that although he was financially
successful, Moaner would not bring the best out of the breed of
players Wenger has created.

We may probably see someone like Le Guen or as many here have said
Tony Adams. While Le Guen may epitomise Wenger's style of football,
Tony would be the front runner because of what he is to the club.
But the latter still has lots to learn and his tutelage under Harry
Redknapp at Portsmouth would be a good learning curve. However, he
must take that step up and maybe become Wenger's number two
sometime. Playing in a CL team and managing one is totally
different. And would be nice to have some of Wenger's management
skills rub off him. Then again, maybe he just prefers coaching like
Pat Rice to actually managing one.

It doesn't matter who takes over but after more than 10 years of
Wenger, I would dread to go back to the old long ball merchant
days. Another important thing is the successor value the EPL more
than CL. I wouldn't want Arsenal to turn into another Liverpool.
The Reds have turned into a Cup team. The rotation system will
rotate Liverpool out of the EPL. That is why if anything, I see us
against Manure challenging for it this year.

The Sevilla coach looks reasonable but would he command the same
attraction as Wenger. That is another issue, we are at the level
where we need someone with enough presence and charisma to attract
players. Players come to Arsenal because of Wenger and his style of
football. The successor would have to project this image if not
more. Sure we may buy big players thereafter but it shouldn't be in
the expense of growing resentment among players currently in the
Arsenal set up.

The nest person has a very big pair of shoes to fill.

As for Bergkamp, he has said it before, he is not interested in
managing a team. However, would he consider being a coach?

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2b.

Re: Wenger's successor

Posted by: "Ahmad Kama Muhammad" akamo7@yahoo.com   akamo7

Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:55 pm (PST)

Yea--the young and exciting players Wenger left behind for his next successor will makes the job more interesting.I think anybody that can master the art of spotting and developing talents can join the Gunners.Yes-Gus Hiddink might be older-the candiddates must be from the younger breed of coaches....I think theres alot to choose from..but what Wenger did for the club now already far achieving the initial target to win trophies...

Yippy <kcheong@uk.ey.com> wrote: Gooners

I am sure being the visionary he is, Wenger would have probably made
one or two glances elsewhere to be his successor. But I can bet,
Moaner would never be considered if Wenger and the current board
have their way. Mainly because they would want to retain the way
Arsenal plays football and the fact that although he was financially
successful, Moaner would not bring the best out of the breed of
players Wenger has created.

We may probably see someone like Le Guen or as many here have said
Tony Adams. While Le Guen may epitomise Wenger's style of football,
Tony would be the front runner because of what he is to the club.
But the latter still has lots to learn and his tutelage under Harry
Redknapp at Portsmouth would be a good learning curve. However, he
must take that step up and maybe become Wenger's number two
sometime. Playing in a CL team and managing one is totally
different. And would be nice to have some of Wenger's management
skills rub off him. Then again, maybe he just prefers coaching like
Pat Rice to actually managing one.

It doesn't matter who takes over but after more than 10 years of
Wenger, I would dread to go back to the old long ball merchant
days. Another important thing is the successor value the EPL more
than CL. I wouldn't want Arsenal to turn into another Liverpool.
The Reds have turned into a Cup team. The rotation system will
rotate Liverpool out of the EPL. That is why if anything, I see us
against Manure challenging for it this year.

The Sevilla coach looks reasonable but would he command the same
attraction as Wenger. That is another issue, we are at the level
where we need someone with enough presence and charisma to attract
players. Players come to Arsenal because of Wenger and his style of
football. The successor would have to project this image if not
more. Sure we may buy big players thereafter but it shouldn't be in
the expense of growing resentment among players currently in the
Arsenal set up.

The nest person has a very big pair of shoes to fill.

As for Bergkamp, he has said it before, he is not interested in
managing a team. However, would he consider being a coach?

Gunner6

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3a.

Re: Hammers

Posted by: "mahendran mahen" mahen_velu@hotmail.com

Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:26 pm (PST)


Wat a rowdy tackle by nobel,should give marching orders
the injury list keep on growing,may b adebayor can play tis tuesdays cl game.
very good win,wasted few changes,luckily ljunberg goal was outside,
Keep on winning gunners..
Any live telecast 2row for game against Steua Buch..
HAIL GUNNERS..LOVE ARSENAL FOREVER..

To: arsenal-my@yahoogroups.comFrom: mahen_velu@hotmail.comDate: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:44:53 +0000Subject: RE: AFCSM: Usmanov again

Yeah we must accept the fact that mr wenger cant carry on as The Boss 4 ever,there is the end 4 eveything.. but i would like to see wenger to b incharge for decades,he loves the club the fan the support from the board and importantly the great commitment of his young and world class players...my only hope is who ever take over the club,kroenke ke usmanov ke bill gates ke samy velu kedont interfere in wengers job,let him do his job wit out any campur tangan from the board.like to c former gunner 2 take over as the boss in future..bergy ke parlour ke (henry??) ke.david seamen ke..who ever la as long as a former gunners..Les GUN Down THE Hammers ...HAIL THE GUNNERS!!To: arsenal-my@yahoogroups.comFrom: kaviraj.anandan@spansion.comDate: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:43:51 +0800Subject: RE: AFCSM: Usmanov againActually, the potential successor topic is darn interesting one. We haveto agree that Arsene cant go on forever. I wonder who would be the bestreplacement for the boss. Bergie would be a nice touch, but question would be. Would he want to ?And would it be a good move to immediately put him at a club likeArsenal ?What you guys think?________________________________From: arsenal-my@yahoogroups.com [mailto:arsenal-my@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf Of Sigi vanilliSent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:18 AMTo: arsenal-my@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: AFCSM: Usmanov againDear YippyTo add on to your views, the proposed take over by this Usmanov who isclosely linked to the russian PM clearly shows that profits earned byarsenal FC are at risk to be channel to the russian government, a ployby the government it seft. I believe Usmanov is just the front page withother russian behind him.I have been following on Forbes for a long time, wat suprise me the mostis I never heard of this guy? Is it logical that suddently we hear abillionaire of unknown is interested in buying our loved club? Most ofus do smell a rot here?Just look at the number of owners in the EPL, most of them have russionlinks..Me as an ardent gonners fan would not like to see this guy taking over,we earned 70M last financial year...we might be deprived of funds forfuture development.Another thing that bothers me recently, as we know that Ah Weng hasextended his stay for 3 more years. In my opinion it is time for him tostart looking for a potential successor to be groomed to inherent hisquality. The person should be someone that understands the culture andlove the club.I feel a former player like Bergy would be suitable. Wat u guys think ? Yippy <kcheong@uk.ey.com <mailto:kcheong%40uk.ey.com> > wrote:GoonersAs I suspected, he is in for Arsenal's money. He knows the club is going to flourish and having a controlling/influential stake where he can call for a dividend is his way of taking money out of Arsenal.Instead of a full takeover and get logged into a battle with the Arsenal Board, he is playing it smart. I would love to find out how much you need to hold in Arsenal before you have sufficient power to throw your influence around.Rest assure, a certain person removed from Arsenal not too long ago would have fed the Russian with the info that Arsenal would be a very rich club soon.I have some bloggers reverting that Arsenal is small change compared to what the Russian is valued at. That may be, but money makes more money. With the kind of money Arsenal is making, he can drain some of it out and when the time comes to sell his stake in the club, he will still at the very least get back all his money spent to buy his current (and future) shareholding.The return to DD is possibly a seat in the Board. Again, that would depend on what is stated in the Memorandum and Articles. But I am sure 100% is not required to put someone on the Board.Usmanov differs from Roman because the former became the latter bought into Chelski when they needed money most, whereas Usmanov bought into Arsenal at a time when they are loaded with cash.I am not criticising his method of making money as buying into Arsenal is the same as us investment in profitable companies to make money although some spare dosh would be very much welcomed for my part. I am coming from the Arsenal angle where I would like the money to stay with Arsenal so that Le Boss can use it to make the club better. I am selfish in that sense for I want Arsenal to become the best and money can help to achieve that although a visionary boss is another.Unless I have a billionaire uncle/auntie who suddenly appears from nowhere and allows me unlimited access to his/her bank account, I can only hope Usmanov's involvement does not cripple the club.Gunner6---------------------------------Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed][Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __________________________________________________________Get the new Windows Live Messenger!http://get.live.com/messenger/overview[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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3b.

Re: Hammers

Posted by: "vincent loo" vinloo@yahoo.com   vinloo

Sun Sep 30, 2007 9:14 pm (PST)

sanderos should be excluded from the team...he is the
worst ever arsenal player that i have seen....is he
capable of wearing the no.6??????

--- mahendran mahen <mahen_velu@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Wat a rowdy tackle by nobel,should give marching
> orders
> the injury list keep on growing,may b adebayor can
> play tis tuesdays cl game.
> very good win,wasted few changes,luckily ljunberg
> goal was outside,
> Keep on winning gunners..
> Any live telecast 2row for game against Steua Buch..
> HAIL GUNNERS..LOVE ARSENAL FOREVER..
>
>
> To: arsenal-my@yahoogroups.comFrom:
> mahen_velu@hotmail.comDate: Fri, 28 Sep 2007
> 04:44:53 +0000Subject: RE: AFCSM: Usmanov again
>
>
>
>
> Yeah we must accept the fact that mr wenger cant
> carry on as The Boss 4 ever,there is the end 4
> eveything.. but i would like to see wenger to b
> incharge for decades,he loves the club the fan the
> support from the board and importantly the great
> commitment of his young and world class players...my
> only hope is who ever take over the club,kroenke ke
> usmanov ke bill gates ke samy velu kedont interfere
> in wengers job,let him do his job wit out any campur
> tangan from the board.like to c former gunner 2 take
> over as the boss in future..bergy ke parlour ke
> (henry??) ke.david seamen ke..who ever la as long as
> a former gunners..Les GUN Down THE Hammers ...HAIL
> THE GUNNERS!!To: arsenal-my@yahoogroups.comFrom:
> kaviraj.anandan@spansion.comDate: Fri, 28 Sep 2007
> 10:43:51 +0800Subject: RE: AFCSM: Usmanov
> againActually, the potential successor topic is darn
> interesting one. We haveto agree that Arsene cant go
> on forever. I wonder who would be the
> bestreplacement for the boss. Bergie would be a nice
> touch, but question would be. Would he want to ?And
> would it be a good move to immediately put him at a
> club likeArsenal ?What you guys
> think?________________________________From:
> arsenal-my@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:arsenal-my@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf Of Sigi
> vanilliSent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:18 AMTo:
> arsenal-my@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: AFCSM:
> Usmanov againDear YippyTo add on to your views, the
> proposed take over by this Usmanov who isclosely
> linked to the russian PM clearly shows that profits
> earned byarsenal FC are at risk to be channel to the
> russian government, a ployby the government it seft.
> I believe Usmanov is just the front page withother
> russian behind him.I have been following on Forbes
> for a long time, wat suprise me the mostis I never
> heard of this guy? Is it logical that suddently we
> hear abillionaire of unknown is interested in buying
> our loved club? Most ofus do smell a rot here?Just
> look at the number of owners in the EPL, most of
> them have russionlinks..Me as an ardent gonners fan
> would not like to see this guy taking over,we earned
> 70M last financial year...we might be deprived of
> funds forfuture development.Another thing that
> bothers me recently, as we know that Ah Weng
> hasextended his stay for 3 more years. In my opinion
> it is time for him tostart looking for a potential
> successor to be groomed to inherent hisquality. The
> person should be someone that understands the
> culture andlove the club.I feel a former player like
> Bergy would be suitable. Wat u guys think ? Yippy
> <kcheong@uk.ey.com <mailto:kcheong%40uk.ey.com> >
> wrote:GoonersAs I suspected, he is in for Arsenal's
> money. He knows the club is going to flourish and
> having a controlling/influential stake where he can
> call for a dividend is his way of taking money out
> of Arsenal.Instead of a full takeover and get logged
> into a battle with the Arsenal Board, he is playing
> it smart. I would love to find out how much you need
> to hold in Arsenal before you have sufficient power
> to throw your influence around.Rest assure, a
> certain person removed from Arsenal not too long ago
> would have fed the Russian with the info that
> Arsenal would be a very rich club soon.I have some
> bloggers reverting that Arsenal is small change
> compared to what the Russian is valued at. That may
> be, but money makes more money. With the kind of
> money Arsenal is making, he can drain some of it out
> and when the time comes to sell his stake in the
> club, he will still at the very least get back all
> his money spent to buy his current (and future)
> shareholding.The return to DD is possibly a seat in
> the Board. Again, that would depend on what is
> stated in the Memorandum and Articles. But I am sure
> 100% is not required to put someone on the
> Board.Usmanov differs from Roman because the former
> became the latter bought into Chelski when they
> needed money most, whereas Usmanov bought into
> Arsenal at a time when they are loaded with cash.I
> am not criticising his method of making money as
> buying into Arsenal is the same as us investment in
> profitable companies to make money although some
> spare dosh would be very much welcomed for my part.
> I am coming from the Arsenal angle where I would
> like the money to stay with Arsenal so that Le Boss
> can use it to make the club better. I am selfish in
> that sense for I want Arsenal to become the best and
> money can help to achieve that although a visionary
> boss is another.Unless I have a billionaire
> uncle/auntie who suddenly appears from nowhere and
> allows me unlimited access to his/her bank account,
> I can only hope Usmanov's involvement does not
> cripple the
> club.Gunner6---------------------------------Yahoo!
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Mon Oct 1, 2007 12:19 am (PST)


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